TL;DR
- Submission is a Kinetic Lightweight Frame SMG from the Vow of the Disciple raid.
- Best PvE roll: Fluted Barrel, Flared Magwell, Kinetic Tremors, Chaos Reshaped.
- Best PvP roll: Hammer-Forged Rifling, Accurized Rounds, Closing Time, Target Lock.
- It drops from the first three encounters, so you can target-farm a single fight.
- It’s fully craftable and currently rated S-Tier for PvE and A-Tier for PvP.
The Destiny 2 Submission god roll is one of the best SMG rolls in the game right now, and the perk pool got a real refresh with Monument of Triumph. If you’re chasing this weapon for raids, dungeons, or the Crucible, here’s exactly which perks to grab and where to farm them.
What Is Submission in Destiny 2
Submission is a Legendary Kinetic Submachine Gun with a Lightweight Frame, meaning it handles fast and gives you a small movement speed bonus while equipped. It drops from the Vow of the Disciple raid in Savathun’s Throne World, and it’s fully craftable once you’ve extracted enough Deepsight patterns. With its current perk pool, Submission is considered S-Tier for PvE and A-Tier for PvP, making it one of the most well-rounded SMGs available.
Destiny 2 Submission God Roll for PvE
- Barrel: Fluted Barrel
- Magazine: Flared Magwell
- Perk 1: Kinetic Tremors (Overflow is also a strong pick)
- Perk 2: Chaos Reshaped
- Masterwork: Reload Speed or Range
- Mod: Backup Mag
Fluted Barrel and Flared Magwell keep the gun snappy, boosting handling and reload speed so you’re never caught with an empty mag. Kinetic Tremors adds area damage by triggering small shockwaves on consistent hits, which pairs perfectly with Chaos Reshaped. That perk adds a sizeable damage buff that stacks the longer you stay in the fight, and it keeps building even while the weapon is stowed. Together, this combo lets Submission handle both trash mobs and tougher enemies without swapping loadouts.
Destiny 2 Submission God Roll for PvP
- Barrel: Hammer-Forged Rifling
- Magazine: Accurized Rounds
- Perk 1: Closing Time (Perpetual Motion is a solid alternative)
- Perk 2: Target Lock (Harmony also works well)
- Masterwork: Range
This roll leans into range, which matters a lot for SMGs in the Crucible since it extends your damage falloff distance. Hammer-Forged Rifling and Accurized Rounds stack range bonuses, and the Range masterwork adds even more. Closing Time rewards you for emptying the mag by boosting range, accuracy, and handling as you fire, which is great for extending engagements. Target Lock then adds scaling bonus damage the longer you keep your shots on target, helping you close out gunfights faster.
Submission Full Perk Pool
- Perk Column 1: Overflow, Turnabout, Subsistence, Steady Hands, Sleight of Hand, Perpetual Motion, Encore, Kinetic Tremors, Closing Time
- Perk Column 2: Frenzy, Bait and Switch, Killing Wind, Chaos Reshaped, Target Lock, Harmony, Swashbuckler, Demolitionist, Thresh
- Origin Trait: Souldrinker (shared across all Vow of the Disciple weapons)
How to Get Submission in Destiny 2
Submission drops from the first three encounters of Vow of the Disciple: Acquisition, Caretaker, and The Upended. Since it can drop from any of those three, the most efficient approach is to pick one encounter and farm it repeatedly instead of clearing the whole raid every time. If you’ve already unlocked it once, you can also buy a guaranteed red border version from the loot kiosk after defeating Rhulk for 20 Spoils of Conquest each week.
For the complete breakdown of every weapon and armor drop in this raid, check our full Vow of the Disciple loot table and god rolls guide.
Should You Craft Submission
Yes, Submission is worth crafting if you’re planning to use it long term. Crafting lets you lock in your exact perk combo instead of relying on random drops, and with the current Gear Tier system, crafted weapons can be leveled up to unlock Enhanced traits and an Enhanced Origin Trait. If you’re not familiar with how that leveling process works, our guide to upgrading crafted weapons to Tier 5 covers it step by step.
Tips for Farming Submission
- Stick to one encounter per run instead of full clears to maximize drop attempts per hour.
- Save Spoils of Conquest if you already have one copy, since the kiosk purchase guarantees a red border.
- If you’re short on a fireteam, our free Tier 5 solo raid loot guide has an alternative farming method worth checking out.
Related Destiny 2 Guides
- Destiny 2 Yeartide Apex God Roll
- Destiny 2 Festival Flight God Roll
- Destiny 2 Vow of the Disciple Loot Table & God Rolls
Destiny 2 is available now on Bungie’s official site, as well as on PlayStation, Xbox, and Steam.
