Destiny 2: Me and You Big Blue Triumph Guide (How to Unlock the Final Secret Endings)

Destiny 2 Me and You Big Blue Triumph guide — how to unlock both secret ending cutscenes, the Zavala finale and Winnower reveal, step by step.

Destiny 2: Me and You Big Blue Triumph

  • There are two secret ending cutscenes in Destiny 2: Monument of Triumph — one featuring Zavala’s retirement, one featuring the Winnower speaking through Lodi.
  • The first cutscene unlocks by completing the Me and You, Big Blue triumph — found under Monument of Triumph > Stories > Allies.
  • Me and You, Big Blue requires completing 7 Triumph Completion triumphs from different Triumph categories in Monument of Triumph.
  • After completing those 7, interact with Zavala’s auto rifle in the Tower Courtyard — between the Tenet of Bravery and Tenet of Devotion podiums — to trigger the Zavala cutscene.
  • The second cutscene (the Winnower) requires both Me and You, Big Blue AND the Sortie Send-Off triumph to be completed first.
  • Sortie Send-Off requires speaking with 7 NPCs at Rendezvous spots across the Solar System, then speaking with Lodi one last time in the Tower.
  • Once both triumphs are done, the Winnower cutscene is accessed through a portal in the Dark Forest in the EDZ — north of The Sludge.

Destiny 2 Me and You Big Blue is the triumph you need to complete before you can watch the game’s two secret final cutscenes. Monument of Triumph — Destiny 2’s final live-service update, released June 9, 2026 — hid both endings behind specific triumph requirements. This guide walks you through every step in order, with spoilers clearly flagged so you can choose what to read.

What Are the Two Secret Endings in Destiny 2?

Monument of Triumph contains two hidden cutscenes that serve as the true final narrative moments of the game.

  • Cutscene 1 (Zavala): A heartfelt conversation between your Guardian and Commander Zavala, ending with him retiring from the Vanguard. Unlocked via the Me and You, Big Blue triumph alone.
  • Cutscene 2 (The Winnower): A darker, more mysterious scene featuring the Winnower speaking through Lodi — a direct tease pointing toward what comes next for the franchise. Requires both Me and You, Big Blue and the Sortie Send-Off triumph, plus a trip to the EDZ.

Complete Me and You, Big Blue first. Then complete Sortie Send-Off. Both are needed for the second scene. Neither is missable — Monument of Triumph content is permanent with no expiry date.

How to Complete Me and You, Big Blue in Destiny 2

Monument of Triumph Stories Allies
Monument of Triumph Stories Allies

Me and You, Big Blue is in the Monument of Triumph > Stories > Allies Triumph category. To complete it, you need to claim 7 Triumph Completions from different Triumph categories within Monument of Triumph.

A Triumph Completion means you finish a specific category’s required number of triumphs. You are not completing 7 individual triumphs — you are completing 7 category milestones. Each category inside Monument of Triumph has its own completion tracker that awards a Triumph Completion badge when you hit its threshold.

Easiest 7 Triumph Completion Categories to Chase First

Not all categories require the same amount of work. These are among the most accessible for returning and new players:

  • Allies category (Stories) — Includes the Sortie Send-Off NPC visits, which you will do anyway for the second cutscene. Start here.
  • Worlds category — Includes accessible destination tasks like collecting Case Files on the Cosmodrome, EDZ, Nessus, Europa, and Moon, plus opening Strange Caches on Distortion destinations.
  • Vanguard category — Completing Vanguard Ops and Nightfall missions. Passive progress if you are running ritual content.
  • Crucible category — Completing Crucible matches. You do not need to win to progress most of these.
  • Gambit category — Completing Gambit matches. Same passive logic as Crucible.
  • Exploration category — Includes scenic spot triumphs on destinations. Several of these require zero combat. Just visit the location and interact.
  • Legends category — Includes triumphs for completing raids and dungeons. If you have old raid completions, some may already be retroactively tracked.

Check the Immortal Title Triumph list in-game — it shows how many triumphs are needed per category and which ones you may already have partially or fully completed.

How to Trigger the Zavala Cutscene After Completing 7 Triumph Completions

Once you have claimed 7 Triumph Completions, head to the Tower Courtyard. Walk toward the central Tenet podiums in the middle of the Courtyard. Look at the left wall, between the Tenet of Bravery podium and the Tenet of Devotion podium. You will see a glowing crystal sitting next to an auto rifle on the ground.

Tenet of Bravery and Tenet of Devotion podiums
Tenet of Bravery and Tenet of Devotion podiums

Interact with the auto rifle when the prompt “Wait Until Evening…” appears. This triggers the first secret cutscene.

The auto rifle is Zavala’s. It will only be interactable after all 7 Triumph Completions are claimed. If you do not see the prompt, check your Triumph count — you may be one Completion short.

Zavala Ending Cutscene — What Happens (Spoilers)

Skip this section if you want to experience it yourself first.

The cutscene is a conversation between your Guardian and Commander Zavala. Zavala reflects on everything he has seen and survived across his years with the Vanguard, speaking about the grief he has carried since his Ghost, Targe, was killed in The Final Shape. He decides to retire from the Vanguard and spend the remainder of his mortal life quietly. He passes the Vanguard Commander role to Ikora Rey. The three of you watch the sun rise together from the Tower, in the company of the Traveler and each other. When Zavala and Ikora leave, it is just your Guardian and your Ghost. The game’s final spoken words are an exchange between the two of you before a cut to black.

How to Complete the Sortie Send-Off Triumph

Sortie Send-Off is in the same Monument of Triumph > Stories > Allies category as Me and You, Big Blue. You need both triumphs done to unlock the Winnower cutscene.

To complete Sortie Send-Off, visit 7 Rendezvous spots marked on your map across the Solar System. At each spot, speak with the NPC. Then return to the Tower to speak with Lodi one last time to claim the triumph.

All 7 Rendezvous Locations and NPCs

  • The Moth Speaks — Queen’s Bailey, Savathun’s Throne World — speak with Luzaku
  • The Day After — Sojourner’s Camp, EDZ — speak with Lodi
  • Heart’s Desire — The Confluence, The Dreaming City — speak with Queen Mara Sov
  • Escape Sentience — Beyond, Europa — speak with Lodi
  • Burned Away — Lost Fuselage, Arcadian Valley, Nessus — speak with Ikora Rey
  • God of Vengeance — Enduring Abyss, Moon — speak with Eris Morn
  • Eternity for An Eternity — Xur’s Treasure Hoard, Eternity — speak with Lodi

All seven Rendezvous spots appear as markers on your destination maps once the triumph is active. After speaking with all seven NPCs, return to the Tower and find Lodi — a quest marker will direct you to his location. Speak with him one final time to claim the Sortie Send-Off triumph.

If the quest marker for Lodi in the Tower does not appear, confirm you have spoken with all seven NPCs and that each individual Rendezvous triumph is checked off in the Allies category. All seven must be completed before Lodi appears in the Tower.

How to Unlock the Second Secret Ending (The Winnower)

Second Secret Ending
Second Secret Ending

With both Me and You, Big Blue and Sortie Send-Off claimed, you can now access the Winnower cutscene.

Open the Director and travel to The Sludge in the EDZ. From your spawn point, head north toward the Dark Forest. Keep moving north through the terrain until you find a portal. Walk through it. Follow the linear path forward until you reach a second portal. Interact with it to trigger the cutscene.

Winnower Cutscene — What Happens (Spoilers)

Winnower Cutscene
Winnower Cutscene

Skip this section if you want to experience it yourself first.

The cutscene is a one-sided conversation. Lodi speaks to you, but it is not Lodi. His voice and manner change — he is being controlled by the Unknown Voice. Players familiar with Destiny 2 lore will recognise this entity as the Winnower, the primordial force of darkness that predates the Darkness factions and has communicated through lore books since the Forsaken era.

The Winnower tells you to rest. To enjoy your time. To let your strength return. Its final instruction before releasing Lodi is to “get hungry.” It is not a goodbye. It is a starting pistol. The scene leaves the door open for the franchise’s future — whether that becomes Destiny 3, a relaunch, or something else entirely is still unknown.

Who Is the Winnower in Destiny 2 Lore?

The Winnower is one of the oldest entities in Destiny 2’s lore. It is not a Hive god, not the Darkness itself in simple terms, but something closer to a fundamental principle — the force that argues for the survival of the strong and the elimination of the weak. It has communicated through the Books of Sorrow and various lore cards for years, always in the first person, always calm, always patient.

It has never appeared in a cutscene or spoken directly to a player character before this moment. The fact that it uses Lodi — a relatively minor NPC — as its vessel, and that its message is not a threat but an invitation, is significant. It is watching. It is waiting. And it wants Guardians ready for whatever comes next.

Tips for Completing Me and You, Big Blue Fast

  • Check your current Triumph progress before starting. Many players who have been active since Monument of Triumph launched already have several Triumph Completion categories partially or fully done. Open the Monument of Triumph tab in your Triumphs menu and check every category.
  • Scenic spot triumphs are the fastest zero-combat options. Several destinations have scenic spot Triumph objectives that require only visiting a location and interacting with a marker. These count toward Exploration or Worlds category completions and can be done in minutes.
  • Do Sortie Send-Off at the same time. The NPC visits for Sortie Send-Off contribute to the Allies category Triumph Completions. Running both quests simultaneously saves time.
  • Passive playlist progress counts. Vanguard Ops, Crucible, and Gambit match completions progress their respective Triumph categories in the background. If you are farming catalysts or Strange Coins at the same time, you are making Triumph Completion progress simultaneously.
  • Legendary Mark rewards stack up. Me and You, Big Blue rewards 30 Legendary Marks on completion. Sortie Send-Off rewards 10 Legendary Marks. The 7 Rendezvous spots each award 10 Marks individually. This is a meaningful Legendary Mark haul if you are building toward cosmetics from the Tenet vendors.

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